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Re: Zlatá slza GRANO SALISza srpen 2006 (Skóre: 1) Vložil: Seraphim v Středa, 23. srpen 2006 @ 14:43:05 CEST (O uživateli | Poslat zprávu) http://cs.gloria.tv/?user=416 | Olin, čili Oldřich Kadlec, historicky první předseda Křesťanské misijní společnosti a kazatel Křesťanského společenství se opakovaně vyhýbá odpovědi na mou otázku: "Považuješ za lehkověrné myslet si a věřit, že umučený Spasitel Ježíš Kristus vstal nejen duchovně, ale i fyzicky z mrtvých?"
Jsem z utajování jeho odpovědi smutný a zmatený. Považuji za správné, aby křesťanský kazatel odpověděl na základní otázku křesťanství. Pokud Olin či kterýkoliv jiný kazatel (duchovní apod.) kdysi horlivě věřil, ale nyní přestal věřit, učit a kázat nejen duchovní, ale i fyzické vzkříšení Ježíše Krista, tak již NENÍ křesťanem. Pak je důvod k smutku, ke zlaté slze, neboť Kristus je znovu křižován dle Listu Židům, 6. kapitoly, veršů 4-8
a) ekumenicky:
4 Kdo byli už jednou osvíceni a okusili nebeského daru, kdo se stali účastníky Ducha svatého
5 a zakusili pravdivost Božího slova i moc budoucího věku,
6 a pak odpadli, s těmi není možno znovu začínat a vést je k pokání, protože znovu křižují Božího Syna a uvádějí ho v posměch.
7 Země, která často přijímá déšť a rodí užitečnou rostlinu těm, kdo ji obdělávají, má účast na Božím požehnání.
8 Rodí-li však jen trní a bodláčí, je nepotřebná a blízká prokletí a nakonec bývá vypálena.
b) kralicky:
6,4 Nebo nemožné jest jednou již osvíceným, kteříž i zakusili daru nebeského, a účastníci učiněni byli Ducha svatého,
6,5 Okusili také dobrého Božího slova, a moci věka budoucího,
6,6 Kdyby padli, zase obnoviti se ku pokání, jakožto těm, kteříž opět sobě znovu křižují Syna Božího, a v porouhání vydávají.
6,7 Země zajisté, kteráž často na sebe přicházející déšť pije, a rodí bylinu příhodnou těm, od kterýchž bývá dělána, dochází požehnání od Boha.
6,8 Ale vydávající trní a bodláky zavržená [jest, ] a blízká zlořečení, jejížto konec [bývá] spálení.
c) Slovo na cestu:
6,4-5 Ten, kdo byl jednou osvícen, okusil Božího daru, získal podíl na Duchu svatém, poznal, jak vážná je Boží věc, zakusil moc přicházejícího světa,
6,6 a potom od Boha odpadl, nemůže se vrátit zpátky, protože veřejně potupil a znovu ukřižoval Božího Syna.
6,7 Země, která je často skrápěna deštěm a vydává těm, kdo ji obdělávají, hojnou úrodu, přijímá od Boha požehnání.
6,8 Plodí-li však bodláky a trní, není vhodná k obdělávání, bude vypálena a ponechána svému osudu.
Místo křesťanské odpovědi výhružka Oldřicha Kadlece, Olina na http://www.granosalis.cz/article.php?thold=0&mode=nested&order=0&sid=5447 23. srpna 2006 v 12:00:50 : "Tak si tedy dávej bacha, kam šlapeš" si taktéž zaslouží zlatou slzu.
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Re: Zlatá slza GRANO SALISza srpen 2006 (Skóre: 1) Vložil: Seraphim v Pátek, 25. srpen 2006 @ 03:01:17 CEST (O uživateli | Poslat zprávu) http://cs.gloria.tv/?user=416 | Křesťanem je pouze ten člověk, který věří a vyznává, že ukřižovaný Ježíš Kristus vstal skutečně (nikoliv jen v představách a snech apoštolů) z mrtvých.
Kdo tomu přestal věřit, přestal být křesťanem, i kdyby nadále zůstával kazatelem, farářem, knězem, biskupem, papežem atd.
Mgr. Libor Halík PhD., duchovní Pravoslavné církve |
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Děkuji Olinovi, že 28.8.2006 odpověděl, že věří (Skóre: 1) Vložil: Seraphim v Pondělí, 28. srpen 2006 @ 15:18:34 CEST (O uživateli | Poslat zprávu) http://cs.gloria.tv/?user=416 | Re: Oline kazateli Křesťanského společenství odpovíš? (Skóre: 1)
Od Olin v Pondělí, 28. srpen 2006 v 00:06:01 CEST
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Nazdar Miloslave!
Jakobin to celkem vystihla, jen netrefila pořadí: nejprve jsem odcestoval, potom měl nucení, a pak jsem myslel.
Na tvou otázku mohu odpovědět, že věřím v Ježíše Krista, který z mrtvých vstal, a sedí po pravici Otce (v Nebi, ne ve Vatikánu), a znovu přijde v plné slávě na tuto Zemi (též do Vatikánu) soudit a kralovat.
Mám na mysli opravdové a tělesné vzkříšení z mrtvých, jak jest psáno, tj. včetně opravdu nalezeného, opravdu prázdného hrobu.
To zdůrazňuji proto, že nevím, co má znamenat to vaše "duchovní a fyzické". Nějaká platónská terminologie?
Dá se očekávat, že to bude platit i v roce 2010, nestane-li se ze mě mezitím homosexuál.
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